Full
Interview by Valle
Dwight
with
ART's V.P.- Advanced
Technologies
Q1:
What trends have you
seen among jobseekers
with regard to startup
firms?
A:
"In localities or
industries where startup
firms are very common,
fortunately, people are
more sophisticated about
startups and their risks.
In a very good and tight
labor market, they aren't
automatically impressed by
stock options. I've seen a
lot of people turn down
offers of big titles,
salaries and stock options
because they want jobs
that would allow them to
have dinner with their
families at 6 p.m., rather
than 9 p.m.. They don't
want to be in their
offices on weekends. Some
people get tired of
'wearing a lot of hats'
and they want jobs with
greater corporate
resources. Many of these
people choose instead to
join yesterday's garage
startup firms, today's
billion-dollar firms.
Because workers tend to be
more analytical, some
startups simply do not
succeed because they
cannot make their old case
that people should come to
work for them simply
because of the potential
of stock options.
"Nowadays,
before rushing in to join
a startup, people are
pausing to analyze the
company's revenue,
potential revenue, venture
capital sources, and
strategic marketing plans.
We also encourage
candidates to do what we
do when we determine the
viability and risk level
of a startup: analyze the
management team. We want
to know if the executive
team is capable of making
the company a success, if
there is evidence in their
employment histories to
suggest that they might
work well in a startup
environment. In
other areas of the U.S.,
and overwhelmingly in
Europe and Asia, startups
are still somewhat rare
creatures and sadly, many
people are duped by the
lure of becoming
millionaires on their
stock options. In these
areas it can be like
setting your clocks back
to Silicon Valley in 1989.
"The
one thing that our firm
finds most disturbing in
1999 is the preponderance
of people who know that a
certain startup probably
will not produce a
product, probably will
never turn a profit,
probably will never become
a real company, but they
will join that company
nevertheless because the
company has some kind of
gimmick - either a
'dot-com' after its name
or some unholy ties into
the venture capital and
public relations
communities - and they
believe as employee
investors that they will
strike it rich. There are
too many of these
companies, in many
industries, and we don't
want to have anything to
do with any of them. But
today, some of the
brightest people are
taking jobs with these
operations. They are
learning nothing but lying
with straight faces,
gaining no good skills,
usually making nothing in
the stock market, and
usually, only wasting
their time and the
investors' money. It is
almost as if all those
people who ten years ago
believed that their
startup semiconductor
company or startup biotech
company, technological
pathbreakers, should have
been rewarded by the stock
market for their
brainpower but didn't, now
are going to get revenge
on the stock market. Some
of yesterday's "believers"
in startups as
technological incubators
seem tired of stock
options not coming to
much, and they have become
so cynical about the
nature of startups and
their role in their
careers and lives that
they are willing to become
virtual conspirators in
legal stock swindles. It's
disgusting, and quite
common on both coasts, and
it will lead to another
stock market bubble
bursting when enough
investors get sick of the
practice or when the
government puts a stop to
it."
Q2:
Are more of your
candidates looking to
join startups?
A:
"We have all different
candidates across many
different industries, and
on six continents of the
world. By and large, more
candidates are looking to
join startups because in
many industries, such as
the Internet field,
software and IT service
fields, startups are
nearly the only companies
with interesting
opportunities. In those
fields, for every IBM,
AT&T, AOL and
Microsoft, there are
thousands of startups. As
these industries have
exploded with growth, so
have the number of
startups, and the number
of opportunities for
people in those fields, at
the upper management,
middle management and
staff level ranks. We
recruit and place people
at all these levels, and
startups form a good
percentage of our client
company base."
Q3:
Have your candidates
generally fared well at
startups?
A:
"Our candidates generally
do exceptionally well at
the startups where we
place them. That is
because of two main
reasons. First, they are
good at what they do. We
seek them out because they
have been recommended in
their industry as being
very good. Second, we work
very hard to find the
correct environment for
them to do well in. For
us, it is not enough that
a client company of ours
is a good or great company
in its field. It is more
important that our
candidate would do well in
that company. This means
that, from time to time,
in the course of an
interview process, it
might become apparent that
our candidate's style or
career goals would at some
point diverge from our
client's longer term
needs, and if that
happens, we encourage both
parties to part as friends
before making a decision
that would eventually lead
to disappointment. This is
the difference between
working with a headhunter
and answering an
advertisement in a
newspaper or online job
posting or hearing about a
job from a friend. Our
reputation with both the
candidate and the
client-company are on the
line, and we would rather
kill a bad case early than
to place someone at a job
where they would be
unhappy later. With
particular regard to
startups, if the candidate
is unfamiliar with
startups and the potential
risks, we will describe
potential scenarios: long
hours, weekend work, doing
work that 4 people at your
present company might do
separately, etc. In short,
we deliberately scare the
daylights out of them. If
they find the challenges
and excitement worth the
negatives, then we ask the
candidate to interview the
employer, to see that
there is common ground."
Q4:
What kind of candidate
would you advise against
jumping to a startup?
A:
"First of all, nowadays,
many of the negative
characteristics of
startups --long hours,
stock options,
understaffed ranks-- often
are also characteristics
of established
medium-sized and large
firms, which in their own
way, might also offer some
of the positives that
startups are said to
possess, such as greater
opportunities,
technological challenges,
etc. And since
working for a large firm
today doesn't guarantee
job stability, taking a
job at a multinational
conglomerate could be just
as unsettling with regard
to job security as a job
with a startup. So what
candidates have to decide
before signing with any
new company, is what they
want from an employer.
They should not be swayed
by claims of big bucks or
even by friendly,
good-hearted bosses. There
is little room for
'wishful thinking' in
making job choices. We
encourage candidates to
carefully lay out in their
minds what they need from
a company to do their job
well. If their needs are
in line with a company,
then they might want to
consider it.
"Generally
speaking, people who might
not do well at startups
are those who have spent
their whole lives working
in large companies and who
would require many people
and departments as
vertical and horizontal
supports for them to do a
good job. Over the years,
we've gotten many calls
from people like this at
startup companies who want
out because 'there's no
support.' Some
managers at larger firms
might be tempted to take a
job as CEO at a startup
because the title sounds
like their dreams
fulfilled, but they might
not be happy if instead of
managing 200, they found
themselves for several
years sitting in a room
with only a CFO, a couple
of programmers, a
frustrated marketing
person and a receptionist.
If their firm isn't making
any money and isn't making
any headway, having
P&L responsibility
doesn't make much
difference. Instead of
being 'captain of his own
ship' he might feel
trapped, more like a
'captain of his own
dinghy.' Before
sending them off to
startups, we do our best
to probe candidates about
these and other matters.
Our firm can offer many
career options. We need
people to tell us what
they really want to do in
their career, and then we
try to find that dream
job."
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