INTERVIEW
WITH GERMANY'S MANAGER-MAGAZIN
(SPIEGEL-GRUPPE)
http://www.manager-magazin.de
The
following interview was conducted
by German journalist Reiner
Gärtner for "Manager-Magazin" and
Atlantic Research Technologies'
Vice President for Advanced
Technologies.
Q: Silicon
Valley companies need good
managers. Why is this so critical
here?.
A:
In my opinion, the most likely
reason for the failure of so many
firms in Silicon Valley is that they
do not have time to develop and
train good managers, and that they
cannot find good managers. I am not
referring to the Hewlett-Packards or
the Intels, here. I am talking about
the vast number of start-up firms
that rise and fall in Silicon
Valley. Since our firm works in the
computer, software,
telecommunications, biotech,
internet and semiconductor
industries, among others, we have
seen many companies with great
inventions, a very hard work ethic,
and even great financial backing,
collapse simply because their
founders do not know how to build
and run companies. You might say
that most of them only become
proficient in running "typical
Silicon Valley start-up companies,"
and by this, I mean companies that
NEVER will grow to be
Hewlett-Packards or Intels,
precisely because of a lack of
management vision.
Silicon
Valley is outstanding for developing
new technologies, but it is very bad
in keeping the companies that
created those technologies.
Sometimes this is intentional. Many
Silicon Valley startups are built
solely to make a great product,
create a company in order to sell
stock to the public, make the
founders and investors millionaires,
and then sell the product off to
another firm. Many SV software
ventures are considered a success if
they last a year or two and then
sell everything to Microsoft. The
company disappears, the founders
take vacations, buy big houses, then
think about the next company they
will create. They are driven by
making their friends in technology
say, "WOW! What an amazing
discovery!" They don't think too
much about sales, marketing,
customer service, manufacturing,
delivery times. These are things
that might be outsourced to
subcontractors or avoided
altogether. It is no coincidence
that computers and software are
much, much harder for customers to
learn how to work with, compared to
TV's or microwave ovens, for
example. Computer and software
techies make their products for each
other; that other people buy them is
OK, but they don't want to have to
spend time explaining their
products.
The Silicon
Valley's entrepreneur serves society
by creating things that people could
use, not by managing companies.
Silicon Valley is a crossroads
between state-of-the-art
technological innovation and the
ethic of the Las Vegas roulette
wheel. The reason why people still
consider Silicon Valley a great
place to do business is that the
Valley creates thousands of new
companies a year. If 90% of them
fail, that still means that hundreds
of potentially viable exciting
companies are surviving. Failed
companies can give people ideas
about how to do things right the
next time. Many successes come out
of the many failures. I doubt it if
we could say that New York, Munich
or Tokyo could claim such an
enviable rate of successful
high-tech company start-ups.
As with all
start-ups, not just in Silicon
Valley, there usually are several
distinct "generations" of management
a company might experience. In the
first generation, imagine the
founder or founders working in his
or her garage or apartment with an
interesting idea. They work seven
days a week, often 18 hours a day.
They drink a lot of Coca Cola and
eat a lot of McDonalds. They may or
may not have outside investors. They
use every credit card they own or
their family members own.. Everyone
works very closely. People call each
other by first names. They don't
wear business suits. Eventually they
develop a prototype of their
product. The President graduated
from engineering school three years
earlier and has never worked at a
company in his life. He takes out
the garbage and goes to the store
himself to buy the printer
cartridges and pencils. The V.P. of
Marketing has never sold a thing in
his life. The V.P. of Operations has
never manufactured anything in her
life. Now they need to bring in an
outside manager, who may have to
wear a business suit, to approach
large companies, venture capital
firms or investors with their
prototype in order to get enough
money to keep the company alive. The
person may be called a "Business
Development Manager" or Chief
Financial Officer. That person
may have worked at a larger firm and
may have worked at several
successful or failed startups. But
this person must bring
credibility...and an ability to
bring in money to the startup.
If that succeeds, then there is a
lot of money, and a lot more people
with opinions on how the money
should be spent.
New managers
have to be hired because the
founders cannot supervise everyone
at once. But who would work for this
little unknown firm? Typically,
founders begin by hiring those
people they know. Often, friendship,
however, is not enough to make a
good management team. The managers
who were hired early to supervise
the many new employees might not
know how to organize, mobilize and
motivate their staffs. Or they might
do a very good job up to a certain
stage, then they run out of ideas
because they lack managerial depth.
Perhaps a year or two after their
hire it may become apparent that a
new group of "experienced" managers
have to be brought in. These new
managers will be needed to create a
"real" company, a company that can
compete well and turn a profit, but
the decisions they have to make
often will make the early employees
feel that the fun of the early
company, its soul, is gone. Then
those early employees may move on to
other startups. And the cycle will
be repeated. After a company has
revenues of $50 million, that
management team might not know how
to get revenue to $100 million, for
example, or with revenue at $250
million, that team might need to be
replaced with people who could
build, run and manage a $1 billion
company. There are many generations
of management, and some people are
very adaptable to going from one
step to another, but many people
know only what they have experienced
and they do not know how to adjust
to new needs.
Q: What
percentage of German managers whom
you contact are receptive to
working in Silicon Valley? Do you
see any trends?
A:
Under 5% of those candidates whom we
contact in Germany are seriously
able to consider moving to Silicon
Valley, but a very high percentage
of our German candidates coming to
us through our website are willing
and enthusiastic about the
challenge. Perhaps 40%. Our website
clearly shows us to be very
international. There are numerous
links to Germany, Japan, Mexico,
Malaysia, Canada, South Africa,
Brazil, etc. Therefore many of those
sending us their CV's are interested
in international assignments, even
though we also recruit for positions
in their home countries....
We see
multilingual Germans who may have
gotten an M.B.A. at Maastricht or a
U.S. school and who want to work in
the U.K., Los Angeles, Singapore or
elsewhere. We see people who
for much of their careers have been
more individualistic than most. They
are not satisfied to wait for their
boss to tell them their next
assignment. They like building
companies and see their career
success in building companies, not
just waiting for their boss to
retire so they could move up one
level. The German candidates
we have seen who are seriously
interested in Silicon Valley and
dynamic companies in general are
usually young and unmarried or are
older and more experienced, with
grown children. The older managers
have usually been posted outside of
Germany and feel comfortable working
overseas. They are very talented and
intelligent and believe that they
cannot realize their career dreams
working in a large German firm. They
often are not paid in Germany as
much as they are worth and want to
make the most of the next 15-20
years of their careers.
Q: What are
the chances for German managers in
Silicon Valley?
A:
The chances for anyone in Silicon
Valley are good, if you mean finding
work. Being at a successful firm and
doing well personally is entirely up
to an individual's abilities and
luck.
Q: Which
jobs should they try to get?
A:
The easiest transition for those not
experienced in Silicon Valley
business is to do what they do best,
but with some emphasis on business
relationships with Germany and
Europe. Local language and common
business practices can take a while
to absorb, even for those managers
who are fluent in English and who
have worked for large U.S. firms in
Germany. It might be easier to take
positions at first that make use of
their German and European contacts
while they become more familiar with
the way things are done in Silicon
Valley.
Q: Do you
see trends that American companies
think globally?
A:
Because of the size and wealth of
the U.S. economy, traditionally,
most American firms usually only
thought of the U.S. market. Export
was for the large firms. But over
the last ten years, large, medium
and even small firms in the U.S. are
thinking globally. A Silicon Valley
startup with ten employees might be
doing business with Siemens or Nokia
or Matsushita or Samsung. Many U.S.
firms have joint ventures with
European and Asian firms, and
nowadays everyone tries to think of
selling products globally. More and
more American companies are trying
to make their firms more truly
international, with autonomous
regional headquarters and autonomous
decisionmaking authorities, as
opposed to being simply "American
firms with foreign employees."
German Managers who think globally
are extremely valuable to U.S. firms
in Silicon Valley and elsewhere.
Q: How do
you place European managers in
companies?
A:
We are headhunters. Typically a
company with a very specific need
hires us to find a manager and,
working from our contacts in their
industry, we contact people who have
experience that might be suitable.
We also learn about excellent
candidates from our website. Often
if we have a very good candidate but
no opening for that candidate with
our clients, we will call companies
to tell them about the person. We
have created many positions by doing
so.
Q: What is
your experience with German
Managers?
A:
In my experience, German Managers
are no different from anyone else.
People are born, they go to school,
they get a job, they start a family,
and they want some happiness. One
thing I could say is that German
Managers, especially the
entrepreneurial ones, often feel
torn between what they have and what
they could potentially do in their
careers. It is a dream versus
reality issue. I am referring
specifically to risks versus
opportunities. People want to be
rich from stock options but they
don't want to consider that if they
are in a Silicon Valley startup they
might have to work 80 hours a week
for two years and have nothing but
worthless shares of stock.
They would like to run their own
companies or departments, but they
do not want to sacrifice their six
weeks' vacation. Every German has
heard of Eckard Pfeiffer's brilliant
successes at Compaq in Houston.
Everyone would like to repeat his
success and wealth, but few would
really want to take the sacrifices
and chances that were necessary for
him to make his successes.
Our firm is
located in the suburbs of New York,
home to many corporate headquarters.
Most of the people working for those
firms... also would like
to dream the Silicon Valley
millionaire's dream, but their
business culture does not prepare
them to succeed in it. Individuals
might succeed, but only despite
their Fortune 500 experience. In my
opinion, the mindset of the average
German manager is not too different
from the average U.S. manager in the
Northeast or the Upper Midwest
(Detroit, Chicago, etc.). These
areas were heavily industrialized in
the 20th Century. Many towns defined
themselves by the one industry that
dominated them: steel, chemicals,
automobiles, optics,
pharmaceuticals, machinery, etc.
Many of the managers in German,
American and Asian companies had
fathers who worked in factories as
laborers and machinists. Their
fathers dreamt that their children
some day could be bosses, in clean
offices, working for the biggest,
most famous firms. Well, with clean
offices, big companies, secretaries
and generous company and state
benefits, comes comfort. Perhaps too
much comfort. Once in that position,
and having to deal with company
bureaucracies, the average German,
U.S., or Asian manager would have a
hard time adjusting to being in a
small company with little corporate
resources, limited benefits and
brief vacation time.
What I am
saying is that what matters today
isn't that a manager is of this or
that nationality. It is his or her
company experience and personal
drives that determine if he or she
would succeed in Silicon Valley or
places where there is a similar
business model, such as Austin
(Texas), Cambridge (Massachusetts),
or Boulder (Colorado).
Silicon
Valley not too long ago was really
only a few universities and
vineyards. Farmland. There was no
corporate ideology or tradition
dominating the area. It's no wonder
that the companies that would sprout
from that soil would be working in
new technologies and would do
everything differently. The place
would be very individualistic. And
just as yesterday's Silicon Valley
workers would be toiling long hours
in the fields picking lettuce or
grapes, today's Silicon Valley
farmers are toiling doing digital
circuit design or software
programming. The big difference is
that today's SV laborers get to own
part of their companies, and while
it is a gamble, most Silicon Valley
engineers, scientists and managers
know people who have become very
wealthy from their stock options. So
they sacrifice, because they see
that in the chaos of Silicon Valley
startups, many, many people get
rewarded for their hard work. That
has a lot to do with what Silicon
Valley is and why it is a
technological and economic success
story.
Q: How many
German managers did you place?
A:
Since our founding in 1987, over 15%
of our placements have been
candidates of German, Swiss or
Austrian origin. That includes
Presidents, Directors, Managers,
scientists and engineers in Europe
and the U.S. Our candidates are of
every nationality, from every
continent except, perhaps,
Antarctica.
Q: What is
the "standing" of German managers
in Silicon Valley?
A:
There are all different opinions.
Generally, everyone in U.S. industry
has a tremendous respect for the
thoroughness of German managers. In
English we say, "They like to run a
tight ship," which means that they
often pay great attention to detail.
On the good side, that can result in
products of great quality. On the
bad side, that can result in
overmanagement, in "command and
control" ways of running a business
that might not work well in a small
startup environment. In Silicon
Valley that management style is
often referred to as "East Coast
management style," since many
older, larger, non-Silicon Valley
U.S. firms often have been
characterized by managers who are
experienced in running large
factories of laborers rather than
small, highly skilled and highly
mobile professionals. (Silicon
Valley workers often work at 3 or 4
or more companies in a ten year
period. And with labor shortages
they are not penalized for such
frequent job changes. A manager in
SV who assumes company loyalty and a
staff ready to take orders
unquestioned could find that his
staff might leave him.) Again, this
is not an unchangeable national or
regional characteristic. It is more
of a business experience. Many
people have written about IBM's
takeover of certain Silicon Valley
firms and the disasters that
resulted due to very different
management cultures.
Silicon
Valley people tend not to see the
world as nations. They see corporate
cultures. "Microsoft people,"
"Oracle people, " etc. All these
distinctions have tremendous
meanings for them. Beyond these SV
companies, there is mystery. There
is Silicon Valley and then there is
the desert. German managers in
themselves do not matter in SV
culture any more than does a manager
from AT&T, General Motors,
Boeing, IBM, or 3M. Silicon Valley
people do not automatically
recognize accomplishments made
outside of Silicon Valley. They will
recognize anyone from any place on
earth who has accomplishments in
Silicon Valley, though. So even in
the SV chauvinism there is a healthy
equality based on merit.
Our firm sees
tremendous needs for German managers
in Silicon Valley, particularly for
those who could help globalize
companies. They could be based in
Silicon Valley itself or in Europe
or elsewhere. They could be in
nearly any technological industry or
in high tech service firms. We
particularly see needs in
telecommunications, computers and
electronics. In addition to their
familiarity with the German market,
there are many German managers with
deep familiarity with Europe as a
whole, or Eastern Europe or Asian,
African, Latin American and Middle
Eastern markets. People who have
knowledge of the German market or
other international markets are
difficult to find in the U.S.
When they are found, they can be
given very good compensation
packages because they are so rare
and because those firms do not want
to lose such valuable employees.
Q: Do you
also go to Germany to find the
right people for your American
clients?
A:
If we are working for a German firm,
a U.S. firm or a firm from anywhere
else in the world, we conduct
virtually all our recruiting from
our headquarters, via a brilliant
19th Century invention called a
telephone, and the internet. These
simple tools permits us to act as a
"virtually local" search firm
everywhere on earth without need of
field offices. We simply call
candidates on the telephone and ask
them if they would like to talk to
or meet our clients. We want our
candidates and clients to spend most
of their time getting to know each
other. It is more important for them
to see if they can work well with
each other. We believe that is the
most efficient for all.
Q: Are
Germans requested?
A:
Our firm is a very
technology-oriented firm. We place
technical people and technical
managers. When we are called in, a
person has to know fiberoptic
components, for example. Or cellular
telephony. Or automotive engines. Or
they have to have sold to Siemens.
Or they must know how to establish a
printed circuit board plant in the
Philippines or a brakes plant in
South Carolina. Things like that.
Nobody cares about nationality. It's
if the person can do the job that
matters. If we are requested to
search in Germany for a German-based
position, naturally, the candidates
we would contact would likely be
German, but only those who had very
special skills or knowledge, not
"because" they were German.
In recruiting
worldwide, we do see a much lesser
interest by companies to establish
or expand offices in Germany. Due to
labor laws, wages and benefits, it
usually makes more sense for
companies to build or expand in
Belgium, the Netherlands or the U.K.
This means that in establishing
European headquarters, many firms
are choosing countries other than
Germany to do so. This is only
because of the cost of doing
business in Germany, and it means
that some German managers might lose
out on good opportunities or have to
go elsewhere for them. It is
therefore very important for today's
German Managers, for their own
career safety, to try to keep up
their foreign languages and to try
whenever possible to gain
international assignments, even to
neighboring countries. I understand
that the heads of many German firms
have talked about moving out of
Germany. These are economic
decisions, not recruiting decisions.
Q: How much
does it cost to use your service?
A:
The costs to our candidates is free.
Our client-companies pay our fees
based on our degree of difficulty in
finding a particular person. On
average, our fee may be the
equivalent of between 20-30% of the
placed person's salary. In many
cases our fees are significantly
lower than our competitors, thanks
to our efficiency.
Q: What is
your success rate?
A:
Since our founding in 1987, in an
average year, we place one person
for every three for whom we arrange
face-to-face interviews. At a
leading competitor, the rate is
roughly one placement per ten
interviews. Our internal corporate
continuous quality program permits
us improve our methods of analyzing
candidate and company needs. The
resulting efficiency permits us to
expand our business while passing on
savings to our clients in the form
of lower fees and candidates who are
well suited for their new firms.
Since our founding, we have never
had to return a fee to a company due
to that candidate's not being a good
match. We know that this is a very
enviable and unusual record, and we
owe it all to the quality of our
candidates, whom we call "our best
calling cards."
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