INTERVIEW
With
Trade
and Forfaiting Review (U.K.)
www.tfreview.com
Full
Interview by Rupert Sayer,
Managing Editor, Trade &
Forfaiting Review, with
ART's V.P.- Advanced
Technologies
Q1.
What is your recruitment
specialty? Which areas of business
and where?
Atlantic
Research Technologies is an
executive search firm that recruits
people from the CEO level to the
professional staff level on six
continents. We believe we are the
first executive search firm in the
world to offer "virtually local"
recruitment services to our
client-companies, meaning that
through the internet (and
telephones) our worldclass
headhunters can successfully
recruit, screen and place candidates
in the 1,000 top metropolitan areas
of the planet without having
physical offices in these places. We
recruit in nearly every discipline
required to create and run a
company, including CEO's, COO's,
Presidents, Managing Directors, Vice
Presidents, CFO's, Technology and
Engineering heads, CIO's, Sales and
Marketing heads, Purchasing and
Materials heads, Manufacturing and
Operations heads, Quality heads,
etc. We are constantly expanding our
industry reach, equally in the
manufacturing and services sectors,
high technology industries, older
industries and in the new industries
related to the internet, IT and
computer technologies. Our
client-companies are multinationals,
progressive medium-sized firms or
exciting startups. More information
about us is available at our website
https://www.atlanticresearch.com
Our clients
and recruits are involved in nearly
every aspect of our daily lives:
from the makers and marketers of
your breakfast cereal, to the
toothpaste you use to brush your
teeth, to the car you drive to work,
to the petrol you pump into your
car, to the financial service
company or bank that processes the
credit card transaction you use to
buy that petrol, to the wireless
technologies used for you to make
your mobile telephone call as well
as the telecom supplier you use.
They make the paints, temperature
control systems, multilayered glass
and plastics used in your office
building; they design, sell,
assemble and market the computer you
start up, the software you launch,
the ISP that connects you to the
web, the networking backbone that
forms the web, the internet
directory or web portal you query,
the e-zine you read online, the
website that you use to buy stocks,
books or use to transact
intercontinental materials
procurement decisions for your
company. Our clients book your
travel online, and are the airline
and aircraft maker who will get you
to your holiday destination. They
make the movies you are watching
inflight on the personal LCD monitor
our other clients or recruits make.
(That LCD display consists of
semiconductors made by some of our
other clients and recruits.) They
make the sunglasses you will wear,
they might be the company owning the
entertainment theme park where you
and your family are visiting. If you
come down with an illness or get
into an accident, they are the
makers of vaccines, biomedical
implants, medical equipment. They
are the companies that make the
defence products that protect NATO
countries. We have placed important
executives at the U.S. Mint, so a
sizable portion of American coinage
will also have been "touched" by the
expertise of ART recruits.
Q2.
How long have you been operating?
ART has been
operating since 1987, and we have
been on the internet since 1996. We
are an established, professional
executive search firm that conducts
traditional headhunting through
people-to-people human contacts. Our
typical Account Manager assigned to
a client-company would likely have
over ten years' experience as a
recruiter and would be able to work
equally at home with people in
Europe, North America, Asia, Latin
America, the Middle East, Africa or
Australia. Our internet presence
allows us to reach, at today's rate,
an additional half million people a
year. The majority of these people,
and nearly all those who send us
their CV's, are candidates whose
professional backgrounds are highly
relevant to our clients' needs. We
cannot help entry level people or
people who want advice on circus
careers. Those who come to
Atlanticresearch.com are either
highly capable and motivated
worldclass business executives,
exceptional middle-level managers or
the employers who need such talented
people.
Q3.
Does the firm recruit in this area
of electronic cross-border trade
and exports? Both IT and export
practitioners?
ART works
extensively recruiting candidates
for all aspects of electronic
commerce. We recruit the CIO's, Vice
Presidents of Technology, Software
Managers and the users of the
software developed by these
candidates and their staffs. On the
technical side, this includes those
Ph.D.'s in Software Architecture who
are creating systems that will
render today's IT solutions passé,
as well as people who will implement
and maintain existing IT
technologies for companies. On the
business side, we recruit CEO's,
VP's of Business Development, CFO's,
Marketing VP's, Global Sourcing/
Materials people and others who
build e-commerce companies, sell
e-commerce services and
professionals who make electronic
supply chains a reality.
Regarding the
cross-border aspect, ART specializes
in candidates who think and act like
we do: people who understand that
just as our telephones do not only
make "local" calls or our computers
work only in one place but not in
another, all business is or is going
to be done on a borderless, global
scale. We do not work well with
provincial mindsets or
protectionists. We actively work to
recruit people who work well with
people who are not in their same
town, region or country. Our
client-companies like our candidates
to "think large" and to be able to
carry out their visions. We like
candidates who are bilingual or
multilingual or who have a
fundamental belief that all people
are basically alike. We like
candidates who know how to tap into
the potential customers' or
suppliers' knowledge, concerns,
desires and goals. We put a great
deal of our resources into the
recruitment of managers and
executives who are needed now by the
wise and successful firms of today
and who will be desperately required
by all firms in the near future.
Our
client-companies in e-commerce fall
into three big categories. First are
the IT consulting firms, large and
small. Second are the startups
wishing to act as e-commerce
portals, electronic auction houses
for particular industries or
commodities, as internet banks, or
as "e-tailers." Third are the
well-established companies that are
looking for people to add an
e-commerce element to their existing
sales, marketing or operations
structures. Some of these
established companies are
half-considering going full out with
e-commerce, abandoning their
traditional sales and marketing
channels, while others are tinkering
with the idea of creating an
internal e-commerce startup and then
spinning it off as a separate unit.
This is new territory for everyone,
but in nearly every case, the
ultimate goal is to be conducting
business internationally. Sometimes
governments, tax laws, distribution
or language content hinder the full
internationalization of all
e-commerce strategies, but in fields
like electronics manufacturing,
there is already one world market
with a common "language"
(semiconductors, printed circuit
boards, etc.) and cadres of
like-minded purchasing and sales
managers to make an e-commerce
solution an immediately global
project.
Q4.
Have you found, as I have said,
that you can find plenty of
experienced people with
business-to-consumer experience,
but not B-2-B; ie., experience of
the general internet consumer
market, but not the wider area of
cross-border trade, etc.?
We recruit
for both the consumer and the
business market. Generally speaking,
we see many more qualified B-2-B
electronic commerce professionals
than we see B-2-C people. The key
word here is "qualified." For a
decade or more, there have been
thousands of large and small
companies --information technologies
services firms, management
consulting firms, software firms and
computer services firms-- that have
been developing, marketing and
selling IT and later internet
solutions to businesses. From these
firms have come the first legions of
"e-commerce professionals" to form
the top management and middle
management ranks of new B-2-B
e-commerce startups, as well as the
e-commerce operations of the large
multinationals. Prior to their new
roles, these people have been
targeting their energies to specific
market sectors, such as banking/
brokerage, automotive, telecoms,
etc. Not surprisingly, most of these
people continue working in the
markets that they know best.
Consumer
market e-commerce has much more
varied origins. Some of the early
founders came out of the computer,
ISP or software fields - people who
sold computer-related products to
consumers, but some, like Jerry
Yang, a Stanford engineering student
who founded Yahoo!, had no
professional "consumer market"
experience, but had smarts, free
time and vision of what people would
want to get from the internet. So to
start off, there were few people
serving the consumer market in the
technology market, and they tended
to be overwhelmingly in only Silicon
Valley, whereas there are
experienced B-2-B people all over
the world. The next ranks of
Consumer market recruits for
e-commerce came out of two very
untechnological sources: consumer
products companies -marketers
selling "brands" of soap, jeans,
fastfoods, softdrinks, etc.- and top
U.S. business schools, whose MBA's
found that instead of working at
entry-level jobs at banks they could
instantly label themselves as CEO's
and CFO's of internet companies that
they themselves created.
While the
B-2-B e-commerce customers required
the results as promised or they
would jump ship or make suit,
consumer market e-commerce customers
still are disproportionally
teenagers or young adults who like
"cool" websites that appear to offer
a lot of "free stuff" while these
sites actually are sophisticated
marketing information gathering
sites that might produce little of
substance or profit other than
phenomenal stock prices. While many
B-2-B e-commerce pros might look
down on most B-2-C firms for their
frivolous application of IT, B-2-C
e-commerce pros should be applauded
for their ability to create
something from absolutely nothing
other than their imagination. We are
seeing more and more "qualified"
B-2-C electronic commerce people,
but since their side of the business
is so new, and since people tend to
jump rapidly from one new startup to
the next, it can be difficult to
determine one's true abilities,
achievements and potential. At ART
we don't like or believe fakers from
any field, so if someone is eager to
take credit for their achievements,
we encourage our clients to put him
or her through the wringer and
verify their claims before making a
hire.
Q5.Are
you finding that this area of
B-2-B electronic trade is the
growing area now for corporates?
Yes. Even
companies that barely have websites
or whose employees barely even use
email or who do not even have
computers on their desks are
terrified that they will be left out
in the cold if they do not wake up
and recognize that internet commerce
is a reality for nearly every
industry or profession, although the
applications and needs might be
different from industry to industry.
Q6.
Why do you think this is? And for
what type of companies?
In North
America, where shopping malls, cars
and fairly efficient product
distribution systems are the norm,
it can be a major pain to sit in
traffic just to buy a book or to buy
a pair of pants. In Asia and in many
European cities it is still fairly
common for women to have to go
shopping every day for the night's
meal. What if "virtual online
supermarkets" were available to
deliver to them fresh groceries
without their having to slog through
the markets? In parts of Africa,
India and Latin America, today many
women have to spend the better part
of their day gathering firewood or
water to cook the day's meal. What
if wireless computers, perhaps even
charging a minimal fee or fees based
on advertising or commission from
each online transaction, could be
brought into rural villages to serve
as a virtual online schoolhouse, a
library, a medical information
source or as an online general
store? Competition for their
business might cut their costs as
they would no longer have to rely on
the single merchant in their
community. Would people like to see
their lives and their childrens'
bettered due to an ability to access
the world beyond their village? We
cannot deny that all the world's
people would have better uses for
their time if they had other
technologies at their disposal. At
whatever situation, people want more
comfortable lives and they want to
spend their time and money more
productively.
Handled
correctly and democratically,
technology can help anyone, and
anyone given the choice would prefer
to have the option of convenience
over drudgery or expense. This a
built-in appeal and challenge to
many e-commerce programs, as long as
they are designed to make the
customers' lives easier and more
economical, not just the firm's.
With the internet, businesses do not
need to do as much costly business
travel as they had in the past. They
do not need to apologize to
customers that they do not have
their latest product catalogue ready
or that they do not have any copies
back from the printer, because
electronic catalogues can be redone
daily in real time. They do not need
to feel bad that they are losing
business in other times zones
because their sales and customer
service staffs leave at their --not
the customer's-- dinner hour. The
internet is the ultimate shop,
cinema, post office, distribution
system, library, radio, television
and bank of the future. The
e-commerce solution is great for
reaching customers on a worldwide
basis, and it might be a
phenomenally easy way to reduce
operating costs. Not having some
sort of e-commerce channel or
operation or use at one's business
will soon be considered as stupid as
not having a telephone at one's
place of business.
Q7.
What is your message to employers
who are looking for these type of
people?
First, make
sure that they truly understand your
company's real e-commerce needs.
They may not have come from your
specific industry, and it might even
be good if they did not come from
your industry, but make sure that
they are interested in your
company's success. Make sure that it
"makes sense" that this person would
and should want to work at your
firm. Do not be boggled by past
credentials, schools, pitches,
connections or any fast shuffle.
Base your hiring decision on the
person's actual record of
translating a company's needs into
e-commerce realities. Second,
understand that these people are
being offered many lucrative
opportunities with stock options
while they are interviewing for your
vacancy. Regardless of your current
salary structure, your offer must be
competitive to these other
e-commerce opportunities and should
include bonuses based on the
performance of the e-commerce
operation that he or she was hired
for. Third, be prepared to follow
through with the e-commerce program
that you are initiating; many
e-commerce managers leave jobs
because their firms will not budget
them enough money to hire competent
programmers, managers and others
needed to make the e-commerce
program a success. Some firms
mistakenly believe that one person
alone can be the "e-commerce guru"
who could do it all alone. That is
impossible.
Most
importantly, be prepared to make
mistakes or missteps. There is no
simple and universal e-commerce
solution to every company's needs.
Employers and their e-commerce
management team must be equally
good-humored and flexible and ready
to evaluate if directions must be
changed immediately or if one should
stay the course. E-commerce is a
constantly evolving technology. It
is a learning process. The standard
corporate decisionmaking rulebook
may have to be discarded in
conducting the same business with
the same customers but through an
electronic channel. Your competition
might cause you to do so. Be as
prepared to learn something new
every day as much as you should be
skeptical of every latest buzzword
or cure-all. Remember: everyone is
in the same boat.
Nobody knows
what will work or what will not
work. What works well at your
company today might literally be
useless six months later. E-commerce
is unlike anything else business
people have ever experienced. It is
not like hiring a competent sales
force and letting them do their jobs
and then walking away, feeling you
have done your job. It is not like
working out your supplier
relationships after a lot of hard
work, and then walking away, feeling
you have done your job. It is not
even like dealing with your firm's
finances and the stock market, even
though the bourses can be quirky,
irrational and ever-changing.
E-commerce might be a small part of
your business now, but eventually,
it might take in your whole
business. It might work this way:
today, your firm is a USD $5 billion
firm employing tens of thousands
with four or five similar worldwide
competitors who you know well and
who know you well. But two years
from from now, half of your business
might be lost to twenty startup
internet firms employing a total of
1,000 people and using business
models that are completely alien to
you. Your customers like them
because they get the products they
need right away when they want them
via e-commerce. E-commerce should
not be treated as a freaky fad or as
a bother but as a necessary demand
on your attention that only will get
more critical as time goes on. If
you are not prepared to deal with
the long term repercussions of
e-commerce on your enterprise, you
need to hire someone who will.
Q8.
What can you say to those
specialised already in this
market?
Be crystal
clear about exactly what you have
done and what you can and cannot do
with regard to e-commerce. Do not
overstate your credentials. If you
do, you might be able to be able to
fool someone into giving you a hefty
salary, but when it becomes clear
that you cannot perform to their
expectations, you will be sent
packing, and that dismissal will be
a red mark that will taint you
career for years to come. Ask
yourself what type of e-commerce
track you would do best in: as an
entrepreneur, starting up your own
firm or working in a small startup
with scarce resources; as a
corporate e-commerce person, more
interested in job stability and
promotion within an existing
organization; or as a "hired gun," a
consultant working from company to
company providing e-commerce help
and then moving on. And for gosh
sake, in your resume or CV, do not
describe yourself as a "visionary!"
Be humble, because there are many
people with your experience or
better. You might have been the only
person at your firm who was
permitted to dabble into internet
technologies, but that does not make
you the king or queen of all there
is to know about e-commerce. Be
prepared to admit when you do not
know something and be prepared to
find out where to get an answer.
Enjoy your life. You have many great
opportunities ahead, and your work
will be invaluable in creating a new
world economy.
Q9.
Do answers differ according to
where around the world you are
recruiting?
Yes. In
Silicon Valley, the e-commerce
capital, many people know the terms,
the technologies, the people, and
the financials. There are so many
variations of e-commerce in Silicon
Valley, and so many examples of
successful e-commerce entrepreneurs
that it isn't hard to determine
quickly if a candidate would work
out reasonably well at a particular
firm. He or she might tell you
straightaway and might explain why a
particular job would or would not
work out. In Europe, Asia, and among
many lower tech industries in the
U.S., electronic commerce is not
well understood, so e-commerce
executives, middle managers and
professionals are like pioneers or
missionaries bravely trying to
evangelize the masses, often with
frustrating results. Sometimes these
candidates are afraid of e-commerce
startups because there are very few
startups in their countries and
because they fear that the larger
companies will use their influence
to squash them.
Many business
executives all over the world still
are frankly suspicious of any
business transaction that occurs
without men in dark suits and white
shirts and bold neckties gathering
around a table with thick paper
contracts and ballpoint pens. They
have always done business this way.
Their corporations have always done
business that way. They are afraid
of the future because for the first
time in their careers they are
confronted with a hugely unknowable
but nevertheless alluring question
mark. It is hard to blame them for
their worries, because, after all,
e-commerce is the twin-headed angel
or devil that offers them the
possibility of becoming billionaires
or having their companies wiped out
because of one little website.
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