INTERVIEW
With "A Plus"
http://www.hkicpa.org.hk/aplus
A
Plus Magazine
Editor George W. Russell, of A
Plus, the official magazine
of the Hong Kong Institute of
Certified Public Accountants, asked
ART's Managing Director to discuss
the changing roles of CFO's,
especially in today's fast-changing
Greater China Market. With
48,000 high-end recipients each
month, A Plus is one of the most
widely circulated English-language
monthly magazines in Hong Kong and
the largest-circulating business
publication.
Atlantic Research
Technologies, L.L.C. (ART), https://www.atlanticresearch.com, is a global executive search firm,
recruiting in the industrial, high
tech and service sectors, for
senior- and middle-management
positions in general management,
sales and marketing, finance, supply
chain, manufacturing, IT, and human
resources.
A Plus: How critical
is hiring the right CFO before an
IPO -- the markets have been
scrutinizing the choices made by
companies such as Groupon and Zynga
-- and what important role does
he/she perform up to the IPO?
ART: "I see the
founder of a company as the great
captain of a beautiful and unique
ship. The founder knows his or her
ship from stem to stern, and s/he
knows the crew very well and relies on
the crew for most everything. But when
it comes to bringing that ship into an
unfamiliar port, the captain cannot
rely on the stars in the sky, on
experience with other ports, on the
ship's seaworthiness or on the crew's
skills. A harbor pilot, whose
specialty is the intimate knowledge of
all the currents, eddies and rocks
present at that specific port must be
brought aboard to bring the ship
safely into the new port. Accounting
and finance are well understood
disciplines that generally should work
in any environment, but an IPO is a
special kind of situation - a new and
unfamiliar port - that requires a
specialist CFO to maneuver the company
safely and properly through the
process.
"In the classical
evolution of a company, the first
generation of finance head is often a
person who can either help raise basic
funding or who can maintain good
financial accounting on an ongoing
basis. That person might be called a
VP Finance, Finance Director, Finance
Manager, Controller, or even CFO, but
basically that first finance head is
looking at the day to day financial
business picture and making
projections about the company's future
prospects. That job is not only "green
eyeshade" numbers crunching but also
the activity that characterizes most
of the critical issues that keep
businesses running smoothly.
"A challenge comes when a
privately held company wants to go the
IPO route. The people in the firm's
finance department know the company
well, have helped keep it going and
advancing, and they also want the firm
to be a great success. However, the
process of preparing the firm for an
IPO and taking it through, including
all the road shows - that is just
something that most perfectly
excellent CFO's, Finance VP's, Finance
Directors and Controllers just have
not done, and frankly would not want
to do. In such situations, it is
imperative for a company to bring in
someone who knows how to navigate the
company through the IPO.
"We always recommend that
whenever possible, a company should
keep its best managers, even if there
needs to be title changes and shifting
responsibilities. The fact is that
although the title 'CFO' suggests that
one is the head of finance, the IPO
CFO may or may not want to be involved
in the day to day business of finance
outside of the IPO. The IPO itself in
fact usually takes most of that
person's time and energies, therefore
it is even more important to maintain
a firm hold over normal business
finance and accounting. There's plenty
of room for a Controller or VP Finance
to handle normal business and for the
CFO to be almost entirely focused on
the IPO.
"The pre-existing finance
people represent the foundation and
stability of the new finance
department, and an incoming IPO-CFO
should not automatically be seen as an
easy replacement for other finance
managers."
A Plus: A number of
CFOs depart a company not long after
the successful conclusion of an IPO.
Is there such a thing as an
IPO-specific CFO and how does he/she
differ in skills or qualities from a
post-IPO CFO?
ART: "Some people make
careers of bringing companies to IPOs
and then moving on, while others
prefer to join a company, help it take
off in the IPO, and then remain as the
long term CFO. There is a lot of
ongoing work after an IPO to keep a
CFO occupied, not the least of which
involves seeing wildly fluctuating
stock prices post-IPO and handling
those changes in a company's long term
business plans. Also, long term
investors want to see signs of
continuity after an IPO, so CFO
changes should not be done abruptly.
"We tend to see the
IPO-specific CFO in the same way that
we see IPO-specific CEO's. These are
often people who are hired not only
for their experience in IPO's but also
for their biographies. Often these are
people who come from a certain famous
company in the same industry, or from
other relevant successful firms, and
their experiences at those companies
are intended to suggest to prospective
investors that this often much smaller
firm now has senior managers at the
helm who know what they're doing.
These are the so-called 'been
there-done that' kind of profiles. The
suggestion to the investor is that
this smaller company appears to be
good enough in quality to attract
senior managers from known
firms.
"A lot of the early IPO
CFO stars and IPO CEO stars move on
shortly after the IPO, either because
they are only performing a job for a
specific brief task or because their
happiest comfort level for a certain
kind or size of company is different
from that of the post-IPO firm.
"The post-IPO CFO who
usually stays a long time after making
the IPO happen is a person who enjoys
the new company and is someone who
really is looking for a home, not just
a momentary 'big hit' in the stock
market and cash-out. That kind of
person is someone who usually is
excited about building something new
and keeping the company strong,
healthy and growing. Often these CFO's
last for many years after the IPO.
"In many cases, however,
after an IPO, it is necessary to bring
in a whole other kind of person as
CFO. If the first generation pre-IPO
company CFO was more of a
numbers-cruncher, and if the IPO-CFO
was a more of a road-show 'rock star,'
then the third generation of CFO --
the post-IPO CFO -- is more of a
larger company, fast growth (and
perhaps fast fall) specialist CFO.
"Because the 3rd
generation CFO needs to deal with wide
fluctuations in stock value, perhaps
we might describe that kind of CFO as
sort of a 'surfer CFO' profile, who
can run finances for a large, now
public company, under the greatest of
scrutiny. Often these CFO's are CPA's
or CA's. In a sense, they have the
hardest job, because they are in the
game for the long run, not just for an
IPO announcement and execution. This
person needs to be able to run a much
larger finance department with a more
sophisticated reporting structure, as
well as have an eye on long term
planning and mergers and acquisitions.
In most cases, there will be a larger
international finance need, as the now
better funded company might wish to
expand abroad."
A Plus: Given the
recent accounting scandals in the US
and Canada, what lessons could
Chinese-invested companies learn in
terms of choosing an appropriate CFO
before an IPO?
ART: "I think that
Chinese business people understand
that there are many challenges in
financing, growing and running their
businesses, be they privately held
companies, family companies or pre-IPO
companies. We all hope that these
challenges will lessen in the years to
come. Until then, the best advice that
I could give is to hire a CFO for the
IPO project as you would choose a
friend. By this, I do not mean that
the CFO has to literally be your
friend or become your friend. Rather,
if you are a good and honest person,
you want to be surrounded by good and
honest friends in your life. Such
people will give you comfort,
protection, happiness and success.
"If you are hiring a CFO,
do not hire him or her if that person
tells you that you must do dishonest
things in order to succeed. In fact,
like the good friend who tells you
when you are wrong, the CFO who tells
you what is wrong with your existing
financial practices and who suggests
positive changes, might be your
greatest helper toward your greatest
business successes.
"There is no country or
nationality that is free from
corruption or that is incapable of
doing good. Everywhere there are great
creators, visionaries, engineers and
inventors whose ideas could be made
into great, successful and ethical
companies. The business owners, as
well as their investors, who wish to
see such successes, first need to heed
the following advice: 1) 'To see and
listen to the wicked is already the
beginning of wickedness.' (Confucius)
and 2) 'The only thing necessary for
evil to prosper is for good men to do
nothing.' (Edmund Burke). I think that
if a founder of a business keeps those
two wise quotes in mind, s/he will be
able to avoid a lot of problems."
A Plus: What is the
best way for a company to positively
manage the departure of a CFO to
investors, employees, media and the
public?
ART: "Of course,
each situation can be unique, and
there is not one catch-all reason for
a departing CFO, nor a single solution
to explain the departure of a CFO. We
recommend to our clients that whenever
possible, they speak very frankly and
privately with their current CFO about
the firm's ongoing needs in finance
and discuss mutually acceptable
strategies for the CFO's departure.
"Whenever possible, it is
good for there to be a clean hand-off
from one CFO to the next. In the case
of IPO candidate companies or recently
successful IPO companies, it is very
natural for there to be a different
kind of CFO to be brought into the
firm at different stages. Often
employees, the media, and investors
panic, because in their minds a CFO
change means that the company's
finances or prospects might be bad.
This is especially common in markets
where investors are not too familiar
with business realities and envision
the company in a horse race where a
jockey suddenly is pulled off one
horse in the middle of the race. In
such a case, the first thought is
'Don't bet on that horse! Something
must be wrong with him!' One solution
might then be to take a moment to
briefly reflect on the achievements of
the outgoing CFO, and the value that
s/he brought to the firm to get it to
that specific stage of development.
Then, the next CFO could be introduced
as someone who has a trustworthy track
record as well as experience in
bringing similar companies to the next
logical stage of growth.
"This kind of
announcement can be made without a lot
of stress, but I am often amazed at
how many companies leave out the
reasons for the new person being
brought in. Some informed investors
will understand the logic for the
change, but most investors will not
care or understand the reason for the
change if the new CFO is just
announced boastfully without providing
an explanation of the differences
between the former and the new CFO's
experiences. If people are given an
explanation of a logical growth
process being handled, there will be
much better understanding of the
change."
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